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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://naveenaqvi.com/2009/11/21/proxy-wars/#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The root cause is what you mentioned as &quot;deception for self-interests&quot;

Root cause is :

Some Holy , self certified thekedarz of ISLAM have taken it upon themselves to convert each and every human on planet a MUSLIM. If he accept ISLAM fine if he does not he &quot;deserves&quot; punishment by &quot;all&quot; means. This punishment will be carried out by individuals , groups (Al-Qaeada etc.) , preachers, countries (PAK and Saudia funding ) etc. 

Since this clashes with the NATURE&#039;s law of difference of opinion, it should come to us as no surprise that the battle looks like ISLAM vs REST OF THE WORLD. 

Added to this is the &quot;mafadaat&quot; (interests) of economic nature by some countries (mainly the powerful) and to ensure their interest they manipulate religion and economy by means of occupations, war, interference, agencies etc.

And when countries try to do all mentioned above they try to have proxy governments if they can not capture/occupy a country by force since DEMOCRACY is the talk of the town now. These proxy govs are funding through differenet means.

PAK is trying to put in place a proxy Taliban gov in KABUL for its interest, USA is trying same through Karzai, India is also doing same. Iran is trying to make sure TALIBAN dont come into power. Central Asia has its own stake.

All this leads to AFGHANISTAN being the battle ground for a grand proxy war in which multiple opponents are fighting in many directions. 

For PAK&#039;s part - it kept one type of TALIBAN group in power to communicate but after 911 there are more than one type of taliban groups. There are some who are angry at us for the U-turn and are willing to even attack our ARMY men. There are others whose focus is more on KABUL and not PAK ( this group is the one which i had mentioned in earlier comment , has full support of our ARMY and ISI). Then there is a group which has a UNIVERSAL ambition, beyond PAK and KABUL and AFGHANISTAN. This ambition is what i earlier explained to put ISLAM on top , by hook or crook.

All these groups are fighting in different directions and manner thus making the equation COMPLEX to solve.

I hope i answered your point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The root cause is what you mentioned as &#8220;deception for self-interests&#8221;</p>
<p>Root cause is :</p>
<p>Some Holy , self certified thekedarz of ISLAM have taken it upon themselves to convert each and every human on planet a MUSLIM. If he accept ISLAM fine if he does not he &#8220;deserves&#8221; punishment by &#8220;all&#8221; means. This punishment will be carried out by individuals , groups (Al-Qaeada etc.) , preachers, countries (PAK and Saudia funding ) etc. </p>
<p>Since this clashes with the NATURE&#8217;s law of difference of opinion, it should come to us as no surprise that the battle looks like ISLAM vs REST OF THE WORLD. </p>
<p>Added to this is the &#8220;mafadaat&#8221; (interests) of economic nature by some countries (mainly the powerful) and to ensure their interest they manipulate religion and economy by means of occupations, war, interference, agencies etc.</p>
<p>And when countries try to do all mentioned above they try to have proxy governments if they can not capture/occupy a country by force since DEMOCRACY is the talk of the town now. These proxy govs are funding through differenet means.</p>
<p>PAK is trying to put in place a proxy Taliban gov in KABUL for its interest, USA is trying same through Karzai, India is also doing same. Iran is trying to make sure TALIBAN dont come into power. Central Asia has its own stake.</p>
<p>All this leads to AFGHANISTAN being the battle ground for a grand proxy war in which multiple opponents are fighting in many directions. </p>
<p>For PAK&#8217;s part &#8211; it kept one type of TALIBAN group in power to communicate but after 911 there are more than one type of taliban groups. There are some who are angry at us for the U-turn and are willing to even attack our ARMY men. There are others whose focus is more on KABUL and not PAK ( this group is the one which i had mentioned in earlier comment , has full support of our ARMY and ISI). Then there is a group which has a UNIVERSAL ambition, beyond PAK and KABUL and AFGHANISTAN. This ambition is what i earlier explained to put ISLAM on top , by hook or crook.</p>
<p>All these groups are fighting in different directions and manner thus making the equation COMPLEX to solve.</p>
<p>I hope i answered your point.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://naveenaqvi.com/2009/11/21/proxy-wars/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; but not many know that they received religious indoctrination in many karachi madrassas.&quot;

Well, isnt that a WELL KNOWN REALITY ?
Everyone knows where the HUMAN RESOURCE comes from, and i have been saying it everywhere all these years ( since 2000 as i remember) that till we get into the ROOT of the problem, we can keep on fooling ourselves by throwing the FRUITs into dustbin and think as if we are done with this MONSTER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; but not many know that they received religious indoctrination in many karachi madrassas.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, isnt that a WELL KNOWN REALITY ?<br />
Everyone knows where the HUMAN RESOURCE comes from, and i have been saying it everywhere all these years ( since 2000 as i remember) that till we get into the ROOT of the problem, we can keep on fooling ourselves by throwing the FRUITs into dustbin and think as if we are done with this MONSTER.</p>
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		<title>By: Tehseen</title>
		<link>http://naveenaqvi.com/2009/11/21/proxy-wars/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Tehseen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naveen,

It&#039;s kind of on a tangent but I have to ask. A really brilliant point raised recently was the &quot;lack of coverage of corruption scandals of Business tycoons&quot;. Everybody goes after politicians but nobody goes after their partner-in-crimes.

Why is there little/no coverage of the Malik Riaz murder trial in any news paper? Why aren&#039;t any journalists tracking the likes of him and exposing them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naveen,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of on a tangent but I have to ask. A really brilliant point raised recently was the &#8220;lack of coverage of corruption scandals of Business tycoons&#8221;. Everybody goes after politicians but nobody goes after their partner-in-crimes.</p>
<p>Why is there little/no coverage of the Malik Riaz murder trial in any news paper? Why aren&#8217;t any journalists tracking the likes of him and exposing them?</p>
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		<title>By: Umer Inam</title>
		<link>http://naveenaqvi.com/2009/11/21/proxy-wars/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Umer Inam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naveen you have not given the answer last row of comments of no. thrid, if you have. thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naveen you have not given the answer last row of comments of no. thrid, if you have. thanks</p>
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		<title>By: neel123</title>
		<link>http://naveenaqvi.com/2009/11/21/proxy-wars/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>neel123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ordinary Pakistanis do not understand that there is an all powerful  &quot;establishment&quot; besides the Govt.  They think that the PPP, Zardari-Gilani and party are the reason for everything that is wrong in Pakistan. They need to know the truth. 

It is time for the ordinary Pakistanis to know that it is the decades long policies of their all powerful &quot; Establishments&quot; of the Army and the ISI, of using terrorists as tools of Foreign policy, that are not compatible, and the impediments for peace with the neighbours.

It is time for them to know that these evil policies have failed to achieve anything for Pakistan in last sixty years, and are likely to achieve nothing in the future too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ordinary Pakistanis do not understand that there is an all powerful  &#8220;establishment&#8221; besides the Govt.  They think that the PPP, Zardari-Gilani and party are the reason for everything that is wrong in Pakistan. They need to know the truth. </p>
<p>It is time for the ordinary Pakistanis to know that it is the decades long policies of their all powerful &#8221; Establishments&#8221; of the Army and the ISI, of using terrorists as tools of Foreign policy, that are not compatible, and the impediments for peace with the neighbours.</p>
<p>It is time for them to know that these evil policies have failed to achieve anything for Pakistan in last sixty years, and are likely to achieve nothing in the future too.</p>
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